I tried to find answers online but it’s a bit difficult. The question comes from a Muslim that I’m discussing my faith with at the moment.
The proposition is as follows: Christians believe that in Jesus our sins are forgiven. But what if someone, a Christian, murdered a child. Isn’t it unfair of God to forgive him? Can’t the murderer just say to the family: “but God forgave me, so you have to do that too. I don’t need to go to prison”. And isn’t it unfair of God to forgive someone without giving the offended person/family “extra points” or some other benefit, as it’s them who is harmed. They should be included in the forgiving process.
Basically: How can God forgive person A if also person B is harmed and not just God. Doesn’t this take away the right of justice from B? And if God’s forgiveness isn’t real forgiveness for A, then what’s the point?
The idea is: Forgiving in christianity is worthless, as either it’s meaningless if God forgives you but you still go to prison, or it’s injust as God lets bad actions go unpunished on this earth just based on the fact if you believe in Jesus. So Christians are always innocent no matter what they do whereas non-Christians aren’t forgiven. Doesn’t it create a society where everyone just do what they want?
And if the family would forgive him, as good Christians should: what’s the point, God had forgiven him anyway, they just loose double (in islam they would get extra points for forgiving people I think, whereas when they don’t forgive, part of the offender’s good deeds will be transfered to the family’s account to make up for their own bad deeds. Basically a transaction of + and - points.)
That’s the idea basically.
I know that this absolutely isn’t what Christians believe. And I tried to answer with what becoming Christian does to the heart and that it changes the heart (but of course there are still Christians who murder, it doesn’t make you immune). And I said that you would still go to prison. But also that God does forgive you.
However, I wonder how it works with God forgiving you if another person is involved and they don’t want to forgive you. I’ve never really thought about that.
Can anyone please help me out?