Thank you for sharing some impressive reference and personal life sharing.
For @matthew.western, with John Lennox reference, yes John condemns Christian violence but never did he say Christian don’t commit violence or those committing violence are not Christian at all. In that aspect he too agreed Christian commit violence otherwise there is no need to condemn their action.
For @brianlalor, excellent sharing. I read it and felt these are actual feelings of many people today surviving in organized crime syndicates. The thing about organized crime, once in it’s hard to get out. The unlucky ones leave in a body bag or worst fate crippled for life. The lucky ones are the ones didn’t go too far as a career and inactively leave.
My understanding is that just because you have magically receive a helper doesn’t magically change the environment you are in. Unless it’s a prison ministry then you’ve paid for them the syndicates are more forgiving in that aspect but the enemies won’t. Still depending on how far up the career was. Any territory leader would be almost impossible to live a Christian life before going to jail.
Having said that, I studied in a school where 80% of my classmates are recruited into syndicates fighting over territorial wars and over pride. I never found out about such seriousness until many years later I left school and meet up with them to chat of old days. I saw them went to church, saw them went for church camps, saw them baptized, believed they were pure Christian and yet many years later found out they were involved in many deadly gang fights during youth days and are now inactively left.
If they were to have died in those fights, my question would really look into more seriousness than curiosity.