Gaurav Chhabra

(Gaurav chhabra) #1

Say hello…
Hello
Where are you from?
I am from Delhi
What led you to join Connect?
To learn the many things
How do you hope to contribute?
By prayer and if possible by finance

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(Daniel) #2

Welcome Gaurav. Nice that you are now a part of the community. In this forum there are many opportunities to learn and ask questions - and meet nice people :smile:

(Olivia Davis) #3

Welcome Gaurav! It’s great to have your here. Thanks so much for contributing your prayers – they’re important to us! Get involved with the forums and I’m sure that you will find that you’ll learn many things – and that many will learn from you as well!

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(Billie Corbett) #4

Welcome Gaurav!

Looking forward to your posts and contribution to RZIM Connect.

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(Sieglinde) #5

Welcome Gaurav! I am new here too. So glad you joined in:)

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(Graham Alder) #6

Welcome :+1:

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(Gaurav chhabra) #7

Thanks all for your love and greetings, my question is that when Samuel died and when Saul was in trouble and he wanted to ask from Samuel, so what he did is, he called him through a lady according to 1st Samuel -28 chapter who was used to speak with the dead, how a person of ungodliness can call a servant of God and can talk to him, she did with black magic and talked to him, how its possible, who was he, is he was Samuel or evil spirit who took the form of Samuel.

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(Gaurav chhabra) #8

Thanks

(Gaurav chhabra) #9

Thanks olivia

(Gaurav chhabra) #10

Thanks Billie

(Gaurav chhabra) #11

Thank you GJAlder

(Gaurav chhabra) #12

Thanks Sig

(Lakshmi Mehta) #13

@Rzim2019, Welcome Gaurav! Hope you have been blessed by your time here on Connect so far. The following article has some good answers to this question. Hope it helps.

It is clear that the spirit of Samuel appears to the witch and speaks. There is no other way to understand the text in verses 15 and 16, which states that Samuel speaks. But there are other questions to ask. Why was the medium shocked when she saw the spirit of Samuel? Why did she not recognize him but have to wait for Saul’s confirmation of his identity? It seems as if this experience was different from her usual practice of divining departed spirits. Why? Perhaps the narrator is mocking her. In my judgment the reason has to do with the wider context of Samuel. This particular story is an example of God bringing up the dead from Sheol (Samuel) and bringing down the living to Sheol (Saul), exalting the humble and abasing the proud. In the Song of Hannah with which the first book of Samuel begins, Hannah sings about Yahweh’s power: “The LORD brings death and makes alive; he brings down to the grave and raises up” (1 Sam. 2:6). The second book of Samuel essentially begins with David’s lament for the fallen dynasty of Saul, and its refrain reminds everyone of Hannah’s song: “How are the mighty fallen!”

Assessing the Meaning

There is a dark supernatural power to which mediums and diviners sought access in the ancient world. For the Israelites, however, this power was off limits. Yahweh was the ultimate power, and his transcendence meant that Israel must trust in him alone. This dark power was no match for Yahweh and in the end would be terribly harmful. For example, all the demonic powers behind the Canaanite Baal cult were no match for the prophet of God on Mount Carmel during the time of Elijah.[10] But in this example in 1 Samuel 28, it is only fitting that because Saul continued to defy God to the end, his end was brought about through his own rebellion, which was the result of disobedience. The depths to which Saul had sunk in seeking counsel from a witch prove Samuel’s prophetic words when he was alive and first condemned Saul because of disobedience: “Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry.”[11]

At the time Saul probably thought this was an “over the top” prophetic exaggeration. How wrong he was! God brought the prophet back from dead to remind him of this truth. The fact that Saul went out to battle the next day proves the truth of father Abraham who speaks to all of us from the afterlife: “If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, then they will not be convinced even if someone rises up from the dead.”[12] The story of Endor reminds us all of the importance and clarity of the divine word. He who speaks to the dead soon joins them.

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