My Question: Has anyone encountered people from the World Mission Society Church of God?

(Allegra Brown) #1

Hi all,

There is a new group of people that state they are Christians that attend a church called World Mission Society Church of God. They are “bible believing church” but have a unique interpretation that the second coming of Christ has already come and that the he is the Holy Spirit reincarnated and he is called christ ahnsahnghong. They believe people must keep the Passover for salvation, baptism is a must for salvation, the sabbath and feast of God in Leviticus must be kept and observed, there is God the Mother and that the fulfillment of all second coming prophecies have been fulfilled by christ ahnsahnghong. At first I thought it clearly did not make sense but as you study some of their arguments it gets hard to refute. They use nothing but scripture to support their beliefs so it feels like people are fighting bible with bible. A lot of what they believe comes from obedience and observance of things from the book of Revelation and Daniel. How should one best approach beginning to share truth with these people? I strongly disagree with some of there ideas, but find truth in many principles which has been hard to refute. I ask this question for the truth to be made to help other’s who have been convinced there is a name other than Jesus Christ that brings salvation. Has anyone heard or encountered people with this group?

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(SeanO) #2

@allegra.brown I had never heard of them before, but CARM (Christian Apologetics Research Ministry) has a whole section on their website answering questions related to this group.

https://carm.org/world-mission-society-church-of-god

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(Allegra Brown) #3

Thank you for the resource. I’ve researched many things on my own and have not come across CARM yet. Thank you.

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(SeanO) #4

@allegra.brown Sure thing :slight_smile: CARM is one place to check if you are worried you may be dealing with a cult.

Walter Martin’s book is a classic on cults, but I doubt it has this specific sect.

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(Omar Rushlive Lozada Arellano) #5

Hello, @allegra.brown. I was able to encounter a Korean missionary from their group before. I encourage you to ask specific questions or arguments which you find hard to refute. This will make it easier for us to help you on how to address their arguments.

I remember two arguments when I encountered their korean missionary before:

  1. The first one is in Genesis 1:26, "Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness…” He told me that since God said “let us” then it’s more than one. There must be a mother. They will then cite verse 27 saying “in the image of God he created him; male and female He created them.” If we look at the whole passage in v. 27, we could see that “God created man in HIS OWN IMAGE, in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them.” The passage itself is not talking about a separate being which the image of this other being is where man is derived from.

  2. If you talk about the plurality aspect (the “let us” part), and say that this is the Trinity, in my experience, they will ask you about the name of each member of the Trinity in order to say that you don’t know what you’re talking about (their red-herring). So they will cite Matthew 28:19, and say that since the passage talks about the “name” of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, then each of them has a name. Then they will say, “what’s the name of the Holy Spirit”?

The Greek word of name is onoma, which means reputation or character in the Strong’s dictionary. In HELPS Word-studies, it means manifestation or revelation of someone’s character. It’s not a literal name. So their red-herring argument is wrong. If you can’t answer them, they will use a person’s ignorance to say that if you go with them, they’ll reveal to you the “name” of the Holy Spirit.

My suggestion for you is to stay talking about the Bible. If they cite scriptures, then tell them the context of the passage so that you can expose how they are misusing it. Like if they say that they are the only people who are saved, since they are the only ones who keep the passover/Lord’s supper, ask them about the thief on the cross being saved without keeping it, or about Judas who kept it who was not saved?

Or you can engage them about passages that show that we are saved by grace through faith and not by works such as:

Romans 3:23-26, “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.”

Galatians 3:10-14, "For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them. Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by he law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us-for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree” – so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.”

You can cite verses about Christ being the only way to challenge their view, such as John 14:6, Acts 4:12, and 1 Timothy 2:5 as well. I hope this helps!

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(Allegra Brown) #6

@omnarchy God bless you for the time you took to write out your response. I would say the argument of Elohim and the Passover are the biggest areas of focus for me to refute at the moment.

Yes, my biggest desire is to show them the context of many of the words and passages they are using. I have been using Blue Letter Bible online and Strongs to help me to dig deeper into words.

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(Carson Weitnauer) #7

Hi @allegra.brown,

Please keep returning to Connect to ask specific questions about particular verses that they offer new interpretations for. We’d be glad to help - the details will help us come alongside you.

Also, one other thing to keep in mind is how words themselves are being defined. When we hear a word like “Jesus” we may think we’re saying the same thing - we’re talking about Jesus! But actually, we are talking about two different people. One way I’ve heard this phrased is, “Same words, different dictionary.” The words are the same but the meanings are different. Keep asking what they mean by the religious words they are using. Then you will have more clarity about the difference between their definition and how the Bible uses those same words.

In addition, remember how much is at stake to change their understanding of the Bible. Speak not only to the interpretation of the Bible but to their hearts. Let me know that the grace of Jesus is sufficient to cover their sin, to heal them, to welcome them, and to have new life in his presence.

May God encourage your heart, may the Holy Spirit guide you, and may you help some of them find a relationship with the real Jesus!

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(Omar Rushlive Lozada Arellano) #8

@allegra.brown, would it be alright if you share their arguments about Elohim and the Passover? Your questions can help others who read through the threat in case they encounter the same thing in their particular contexts.

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