Philippians 4:17-18


(Tim Ramey) #1


Dear biblememorization tag team!
No, you have not overslept or are not hallucinating. I am extremely early in my Bible verse post this week. We are still visiting our daughter in California, we head to Minneapolis on Friday and on up to a friend’s funeral on Saturday. Thus, I am forced to post this coming week’s verses early again. I’d rather that you had it too early than too late.

Any feedback as to how the memorization is going would really be appreciated. It’s just like Our Lord to give me something weekly that makes direct application to the verses. I’ll be curious to see how these play out.

As I have gone back over what you have commented about what chapter we take on next, I have found these recommendations: John 15, all 4 chapters of Colossians and Romans 5. The reason I bring this up already is so that we are prepared to move forward when we have completed Philippians 4. In three weeks, we will be wrapping the chapter up. I don’t want to lose anyone but want us to decide together what we do next. Please determine to stay with us. You can do it. I’m not a cheerleader but am only urging you in eternal Words of Life.

With so many new brothers and sisters that have joined us, how can I say this any more gently but directly as to urge you to please memorize and retain these verses. It is not true that you cannot memorize them. Bite-sized amounts of 2 verses/week is manageable to the extent that if you slip up and don’t have things down pat, you can easily pick yourself up and move on. Just don’t let go of what you’ve already learned!!!

The verses that normally are posted on my Saturday are:

Philippians 4:17 Not that I desire your gifts; what I desire is that more be credited to your account.
Philippians 4:18 I have received full payment and have more than enough. I am amply supplied, now that I have received from Epaphroditus the gifts you sent. They are a fragrant offering, an acceptable sacrifice, pleasing to God. (NIV)

Philippians 4:17 Not that I seek the gift, but I seek the fruit that increases to your credit
Philippians 4:18 I have received full payment, and more. I am well supplied, having received from Epaphroditus the gifts you sent, a fragrant offering, a sacrifice acceptable and pleasing to God. (ESV)

Philippians 4:17 Not that I seek the gift, but I seek the fruit that abounds to your account.
Philippians 4:18 Indeed I have all and abound. I am full, having received from Epaphroditus the things sent from you, a sweet-smelling aroma, an acceptable sacrifice, well pleasing to God.(NKJV)

Regardless of the translation that you memorize, please read all three posted to grasp more insightfully what Paul is saying. If you have another translation that you memorize, let me know and I’ll add it. I care for you all!

(joyce yung) #2

Thank you Tim.


(Tim Ramey) #3

@Bible_Memorization_Group @Lauri

Hey Gang, I have a couple of comments and questions.

First off , I want to welcome Christina, who is our latest fellowshipper on the memorization team. I’m sorry that I was remiss in welcoming some of you new ones that hopped in as I was out of town. Along those lines, Lauri wants to join. Could one of you let her know how you joined? (Lauri, I will be in touch with you soon about those articles that you sent.)

I also want to encourage your feedback on the next chapter that we should memorize together. In post 1, I listed what I’m aware of as possibilities.

The verses from this and last week also evoked a comment from me and that is that, though we can do everything because we are strengthened in Jesus, Paul was still so touched and appreciative that the Lord used the Philippians in the work of the Gospel. Jesus does it but He sometimes uses us to accomplish His work.

Finally, I have a question. In Philippians 4:17, it says “Not that I seek the gift, but I seek the fruit that increases to your credit.” Paul receives financial backing from this church but what is the fruit that comes from the gift? The fruit increases to the Philippians credit. Any thoughts?

Jesus cannot be closer to you than He is right now. However, we aren’t aware of that until we let Him show us that He is right there - in every beat of our hearts.

(Tim Ramey) #4

I’m sorry as it seems I keep writing to myself. (I have 3 of the 4 posts!) However, I had to add something.

it dawned on me that if you don’t proceed in memorizing, not only isn’t more being added to the Word within, but you eventually lose most of what you did memorize.

I want to use myself as an example. I have learned many chapters and as I continue my routine, had them all down while learning 2 new verses every week. However, I have been gone for 3 weeks and out of my routine and as I was biking today, I was amazed at how chopped up my chapters had become - already I’d forget a verse here or there in the more newly learned chapters.

So there are two things I’d like to emphasize not as a pro but a brother and that is to keep going learning new passages. Your mind doesn’t explode because there is too much in it. If it is not scripture, your mind will be full of other things which are probably not up to par with God’s Word.

Secondly, keep reviewing. The small amount of time needed to review is a whole lot less than starting over again.


(Christina lampidaki) #5

Hello everyone, thank you Tim for welcoming me. Looking forward to share the Lord’s word with you all.

(Tim Ramey) #6

There are famous verses and our current chapter has a number of them. Yet, memorizing with this group, I’m just bubbling over with insights and the basis for my opening comment is the reason for two such remarks.

I’ve known “Php 4:13 I can do all things in him who strengthens me” and used it so often in my journey. But I saw it in a new light as it has been memorized in context of the chapter.

The verse means just what it says but as it is lays between Php 4:10-17, I believe Paul is saying that he can do anything in Jesus but there are times that He strengthens us through each other. Your gifts to me were indispensable - it was the way Jesus provided for me - but as important as your gifts were, the fruit of those gifts was even more mightily used for Jesus to strengthen me than the money itself.

Secondly, that verse showed me that often I single out a verse and if it had not been for this group resolving to learn ALL of chapter 4, I would have missed the value of these so-called lesser verses. Learning the whole chapter gives me such a holistic interpretation.

It’s so good to memorize a verse because it is the next one and then, there are treasures in those verses. I’m not discerning what are the “good” verses but ones I’d never consider stand out.

(joyce yung) #7

Welcome Christina. My sister’s name is also Christina. Therefore I will be able to remember you. Have a blessed week.