A church is doing a 4 part series on God, and has advertised on facebook with a video. This has provoked some response from some atheists. I would like some help responding with a meaningful follow up question.
One gentlemen (Gentleman 1 below) was mocking to start with - a Christian who now says he is an atheist.
I asked a simple question in the humblest way possible - and this gentleman did not respond further…
A second gentlemen and third gentlemen responded to my question ‘What is the purpose of human life’ and said as an atheist it’s simply to ‘live live well’ and to pass on genes. I have a number of thoughts on how to respond but will pray about it for a couple of days. I want to ask a question to provoke them to think further - and as @CarsonWeitnauer said in one of his posts, my aim is not to win an argument, but to ‘leave a stone in his shoe’ and make him start to question his worldview.
There are other Christians in the conversation post addressing other questions - which I’m staying out of. This was addressed to me so I’ll prayerfully respond in the next couple of days.
My feeling is I want to bring in the ‘Morality’ question as outlined in the Introduction course, but not quite sure how to word it.
My draft response so far is
"How you define ‘living life well’? How you decide what is the right and the wrong way to pass on your genes to the next generation? In the animal kingdom, males go and kill off cubs of other males that are not their own in order to make the females ready to be pregnant again. Why is this wrong to do for humans if we are simply just going to further our genes. Sure there are animal kingdoms that work together such as ant colonies, but how do you look to nature and decide what is the right and wrong way to ‘live life well’ and further your genes?
The question an atheist must answer is ‘Can there be a moral law without a moral law giver?’
Conversation below, all names removed for privacy.
How about start with.
- Does God exist?
- And which god are you talking about?
A question for you ____, Do you believe in a self creating universe?
No one knows exactly how the universe began.
I was raised a Christian but am now an atheist.
But science is at least trying to find answers not just relying on an ancient text, which I have read, and do no believe the Bible’s explanation of how it all began.
I have seen both sides of the argument.
Don’t waste your time trying to influence my line of thought.
And as an atheist, What is the purpose of human life?
I’m not trying to be clever, or trap you - we all ask and struggle with the same questions as you have asked - and we continue to work through it, and we all want truth. I’m only hoping to provoke further thought.
by the way, John Lennox would suggest that the statement “the universe can and will create itself from nothing” is self-contradictory and logically incoherent. Source: https://www.rzim.org/…/just…/stephen-hawking-and-god
To say, “now I understand how the car works, I have disproven the existence of Henry Ford (or was it Wilhelm Maybach)”, would be a bit silly. Science or God is a false choice posed by the new atheists. Science only can tell you how, it cannot tell you why…
Gentleman 2: the purpose of life is to live it well and pass on your genes to the next generation. End of story.
Why is a human concept- animals don’t ask why they just live and procreate. That is our meaning too, to survive and reproduce.