Hello! I live in Thailand currently but have encountered some mormon missionaries who would like to share their beliefs with me. What are some questions I can ask them to lovingly challenge their false beliefs? Thanks for any help!
Hey @adam, I recently had two young mormon missionaries come to my door and I was able to speak to them on a few occasions while they were canvasing the neighborhood. I ended up giving them the following tract near the tail end of our discussions. Speaking to them ‘in love’ is very important - I tried to acknowledge how much I appreciated their demeanor, respectfulness and to agree with them that family is important (which is the hook they were using to draw people into mormonism), but then I tried to challenge them on who Jesus was to them.
“Who is your master - Jesus or Joseph Smith?”
Another question to consider - “What role do our good works play in our salvation?” We know Jesus + nothing = everything, but in mormonism our own good works help attain salvation.
Also - “Who is God?”
I am looking forward to hearing what others have to say, because this is definitely an area I need to learn in.
Just as a note - one thing both islam and mormonism have in common - an angel appeared and brought ‘new revelation’. Paul said in Galatians 1:8 - “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!”
A book with a forward from Ravi to consider reading - by Walter Martin - we used this in seminary.
This video also seemed helpful when I watched it:
Sean McDowell has done research into Mormonism and recently co-wrote a book entitled “Sharing the Good News with Mormons”. Here are a few links to what Sean says as a start for further consideration and comments from others:
The website of J. Warner Wallace also has some information on Mormonism:
I look forward to comments from others who have studied this in greater depth and had more experiences in this respect.
Wow! Thanks ya very much @SeanO ! These look like great resources. Some of the questions you bring up have been on my mind too. I thought they had some form of works based salvation so I’ve been working to memorize verses out of Romans 3, Galatians 2 and 3, and Titus 3. I’ll try to remember to complement them on their politeness.
Thank you very much @Helen_Tan! These look like they will be very helpful! I’m looking forward to spending some time studying them!
I just finished watching the Jeff Durbin video! Excellent teaching! He gave several passages of scripture that will be helpful! Another important point he made was to keep the right things in focus. Not to ask them about trivial things like coffee and underwear but on 1) who is God. 2) what is the gospel! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you found it helpful. May the Lord bless your conversations and give you wisdom as you seek to declare His love and grace!
I was raised in the Baptist Church, fell away and when I married my husband whose family was Mormon but non-practicing we were visited by the missionaries. I never questioned the beliefs at the time but what drew me was the kindness and honesty of the love of the people. The story of Joseph Smith, Jesus coming to America during his resurrection and so many other issues seemed to answer some questions. I do think that that is one thing that draws people in. There is an answer for everything. At the time I was baptized in the church ( I had already been baptized in the Baptist faith) the words of wisdom seemed to be the most important issue. No smoking, no drinking, so sodas, no hot foods, no excessive eating of meat. Of course now I know that they are a cult and way off base but the goodness of the people probably drew me in more than the doctrine. So now when they come to my house, I invite them in and ask in a loving way about their faith. So many of the younger ones have a script to follow so be very gentle. As people as I still love them in a special way but as the way to God and eternity I pray to set them on the right path.
Wow! Thats very interesting! If you don’t mind sharing a little bit, how did you come out of the mormon faith? They are very nice people and sometimes the challenge for me is to strike the balance between being nice and going along with what they say and on the other end just forcefully blurting out scripture or what I believe.
Thanks for your question. Actually I fell away from all faith and once again lived in the secular world. I have always believed in God and Jesus but that was it. My daughter came to my rescue and now I am back in the arms of Jesus, taking multiple courses, praying for wisdom and understanding. At the age of 72 I want to learn it all, share it all and bring everyone on this wonderful journey to everlasting life. Currently I am learning more about other “cults” and how to reach them before it is too late. Thanks for your question. Always ask to pray with anyone who comes to share their belief and let God take over.
Reading you post made me remember that I have always said If I weren’t a Christian I would be a Mormon or Muslim. A Mormon because of what I perceived as strong family values and a Muslim because of a clear set of steps to live by. Both religions appeal to my needs as a human.1) To live right in eyes of my fellow man and 2) To know that I could do the work necessary to to be right with God. As a Christian I know that I do can neither save the work of the cross.
Jeff Durbin’s YouTube is a must-see. Thanks for sharing it. The 40 minutes is a good investment regarding the overview of Mormonism. Thanks a lot Sean!
@Tim_Ramey Glad you found it helpful! Yes, he definitely does a good job.
I would encourage you to check out the work of Tri-Grace Ministries in Ephraim, Utah. They on at the “street level” in Utah with outreach to Mormons. They have a lot of great resources on their website.
Thanks! this looks like a helpful place!
Hi Guys! A family member recently shared with me David Platt’s recent Secret Church session about Mormonism. It was a good overview of their beliefs and how mormonism differs from biblical Christianity. He also did a good job of encouraging believers to pray for and talk to Mormons they new and played great emphasis on the urgency of sharing the Gospel with them! I’ll try to share it here if I can! Secret Church 18- Mormonism
@adam Thanks for sharing - looks great! My friend and I went to Secret Church once a few years back and it was awesome.
We have had some young mormon missionaries in the past, who we shared the Gospel with in the past, and we have just had two new ones come and make contact, and asked to come and visit us…
I’ve watched the Jeff Bridges video shared by SeanO, and learnt a lot; to basically stick to ‘Who is God?’, and ‘What is the Gospel?’.
One thing that really sparked my interest falls under the ‘Origin’ category; is there a logical flaw in the Mormon version of who god is? if the Mormon god is not eternal, but rather an exalted man, does that introduce a problem into the cause of the universe?
ie; the universe is not eternal but had a cause, God created. (the Cosmological Kalam argument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CulBuMCLg0). The Mormon god is not eternal, how did the universe come into existence?
Here is some notes from the video from Jeff Bridges:
When you say Jesus to a Mormon: they think:
one god among many gods
the result of a sexual relation, between Heavenly Father (Elohim), and one of his goddess wife in the pre-existance
result of a physical intimate relationship between Elohim and virgin Mary to produce Jesus
Jesus; who’s atonement began in the garden, was finished on the cross, and your own works have to end up being your salvation; you must be obedient to the laws and ordinances of the gospel to be exalted into a god one day yourself…
When you say ‘God’ to a Mormon they think
- heavenly father, who was once a man, who became a god one day
- mormon seminary: ”As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become"
Joseph smith from his King Follett discourse “We’ve imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, but I will refute that idea and take away the veil so that you may see, you’ve got to learn to become gods yourselves the same way that all gods have done before you”
“In the beginning, the head of the gods called a council of the gods and they came together and concocted and prepared a plan to create the world and to people it.” (pearl of great price)
the goal of Mormonism is to get to the highest level of heaven the Celestial kingdom and become a god of your own planet one day.
Also had a bit of a read of https://carm.org/mormonism/joseph-smith-quotes
I did take down all the Scriptures that Jeff Bridges suggested and he suggested to just stick to
Who is God?
Isaiah 43:10, 44:6, 44:8
Duet 6:4 (Shema)
John 1:1-14 (best passage to show Jesus is God, creating all things, and becoming a man)
“What is the Gospel?”
Romans chapter 3 and 4
3:20-28 “The law will justify nobody”
Ephesians 2:8-9 (compared to book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 25:23> “By grace you are saved, after all you can do”.)
Galatians 3:24 The law is a schoolmaster which points us to Christ.
… thanks for reading. if anybody has an other helpful ways to show Jesus’ love to Mormons I would be glad to hear of them??
We’ve been continuing to try to share the Gospel to young mormon missionaries, and yesterday we had two young ladies again.
We always ask about the differences between the Bible (King James Version is the only version they read), and the Book of Mormon, specifically between Ephesians 2:8-9 compared to 2 Nephi 25:23b “For by grace you are saved, after all you can do”. We asked what was the ‘all you can do’ and they started to explain some of the works needed, and I showed them the diagram on the ‘Eternal Life’ (from TriGrace Ministries Resources page) and they said they’d never seen it before but it was perfect.
I asked at what point in your life do you reach ‘all you can do’, and their answer was they don’t in this life, they only find out in the judgement; I asked ‘how can you be sure that you are worthy enough’ to qualify for eternal life, and they admitted they lived in great fear every day that they needed to strive to be more worthy.
The conversation then moved towards the differences in views of the Atonement and what it’s purpose was, and we were able to then share all the passages from the ‘Romans Road’ highlighting passages about salvation not being of works.
One thing that I’ve noticed is the mormon missionaries (at least all the ones we met who are around 19-21 years of age) don’t seem to know some of their own doctrine, one in particular that God is an elevated man. About a month ago, I asked the question on origins of a couple and they hadn’t even heard of their doctrine of God being an exalted man. I made this little 1 page sheet which screen captures directly off their website, and asking two questions under the ‘Origins’ and the ‘Morality’ categories we learnt about in the RZIM Core Module. I thought I would share it here in case someone finds it useful, anyone, free free to modify as much as is useful. Mormon tract - question of origin of the universe and origin of the moral code.pdf (350.7 KB)
It may only be useful for a more senior Mormon elder or leader - I found that when I asked the question one said they had no idea and another one seemed quite shocked and froze up and sort of retreated and the conversation seemed to close down as though the thought was overwhelming or something.
Above all we just try to show Christ’s Love to them; as Ravi says ‘Love is the highest ethic’, and as in 1 Corinthians 13; 'although I have all knowledge and understand all mysteries, but have not love, I’m just a noisy gong or a bunch of brass instruments playing out of time (my paraphrase). Just wanted to share as an encouragement to others trying to reach Mormons for Jesus Christ…
This is all very good. I recall about 15 years ago when two Mormon young men came to the door. I invited them in, saying, if you will first watch this 20-minute video, then I will gladly listen to what you have to say. The video was “DNA vs. The Book of Mormon.” They watched about 10 minutes and then excused themselves, owing to a subsequent engagement.