Universe before the big bang?


Thoughts? I’m out of my element here, but would love to hear the thoughts of those much smarter than myself!


From what I can find; Roger Penrose worked with Stephen Hawking; Stephen Hawking wrote ‘the grand design’ in 2010; and Roger Penrose write his alternative idea in a book ‘Cycles of Time’; basically proposing a cyclic universe.

I found this out by a little googling and this was mentioned in a book by John Lennox book from 2009; ‘Stephen Hawking and God; Who’s design is it anyway’. (which is available to read online here if interested: https://archive.org/details/Lennox3)

I stumbled upon this youtube discussion between Penrose and William Lane Craig from Oct 2019. I haven’t watched it in full yet but interestingly as an atheist Penrose says.

there’s a certain sense in which I would say the universe has a purpose. it’s not there just somehow by chance some people take the view that the universe is simply there and it runs along it’s a bit as though it just sort of computes and we happen by accident to find ourselves in this thing I don’t think that’s a very fruitful or helpful way of looking at the universe I think there’s something much deeper about it about its existence which we have very little inkling of at the moment

Penrose, as a contrast to other atheists, who affirm only the physical world exists; affirms that there are three realms; the mental, the physical and the abstract; and then a quite interesting discussion ensues between Craig and Penrose about what is the source of all three of these realms.

you might find this discussion of interest? I won’t pretend to be clever and re-digest what these gentlemen are saying. :slight_smile:

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Thank you for the detailed response!

A lot of this is way over my head, but I do find it very interesting! I will have to give these videos a watch!

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