What do you think of Graham Cooke? Is he biblically sound?


(Connor Nickels) #1

Hello everyone, I wanted to ask a question about a particular ministry. Please know I am not the type to find some way to be critical of others in the ministry so that is not my intent. I am simply trying to find some other sound believers (like yourselves) who can vouch for the doctrine of a particular ministry. I was given some references to listen to by a friend. He pointed me to a gentleman named Graham Cooke. I have asked all those in my life whom I would feel confident in taking their opinion about the theology of a particular speaker/etc. and no one has heard of him. I have looked him up and found multiple resources, both positive and negative. He writes/speaks about prophecy a lot and this topic, in particular, I think we have to be very cautious about. Does anyone have any objective comments that would help me is deciphering whether he would be a Biblically sound person to listen to/read from?

I remember when Nabeel was going to Bethel and people criticized him horribly for this, but he just objectively said, I will move forward with this until I see that it does not align with the Word of God and I don’t think he ever found anything.

Your constructive comments would be much appreciated. Thank you.


(SeanO) #2

@Connor_Nickels I have not heard of Graham before either, but a very brief bit of digging led me to think it would be wiser to avoid him. I am not condemning him or making any statement regarding his salvation. But there is one definite red flag - he claims that one of his books was a direct dictation from God. Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, and Muhammad, the author of the Quran, both also claimed direct dictation. I think this is a big red flag.

The Gospel Coalition has an article on “7 Traits of False Teachers” and one of them is that they have a different source than the Bible. They claim to have their own special revelation or make up stories to wow their audience. I believe it is wisest to follow teachers who stick to teaching the Scriptures.

“The Lord said, ‘Write this.’ And I didn’t have a thought of my own, I just started taking dictation…I’m used to writing books with God, but I’ve never taken dictation before." Graham Cooke about his book ‘Prophetic Wisdom’

Do you agree that claiming direct dictation is a red flag?


(Linda Davis) #3

Yes, I agree, that the statement, ‘direct dictation from God’, is a big red flag! The book of Revelation, says not to add to or take away from.


(SeanO) #4

@Linda Just as a means of clarification, it is possible that “this scroll” in Revelation 22:18-19 is referring to the Book of Revelation and not to the entire Bible when it warns not to add or take away from the ‘this scroll’. That being said, it is clear that Jesus is God’s final revelation and that He appointed the apostles to establish the Church, so we look to what the Spirit wrote through them and do not seek new revelation. What is more, while it is clear that the New Testament is inspired, it is not clear at all that inspiration is the same thing as direct dictation.

Revelation 22:18-19 - I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.


(Connor Nickels) #5

Thank you @SeanO for responding to my question! You know, I had some uneasiness in my Spirit when I initially started looking online, but I feel like you can find a lot of negatives things about Biblically sound theology from great people. I contacted all of my personal “go to” people and none of them had heard of him. I had not read the point that you brought up about the direct dictation. I do find it weird also that he has his own publishing company and “channel” where only his stuff is sold and heard. Thank you for the links as well. I appreciate the input.


(Connor Nickels) #6

So I have been having some good conversation with this person who referred me to Graham Cooke. It is very friendly conversation which is good. I’m curious. He stated this in reference to what I told him about your quote @SeanO

"I believe the Lord can say, “Write this…” He said that to many people in the Bible. And if he’s the same yesterday, today and forever, I don’t see why he couldn’t do that in our day.

Prophetic gifts and ministry are real. We’re imperfect and we might miss something but we can supernaturally experience God and his utterances, visions, impressions, etc. I would hold them in a critical eye if they contradicted the Word or God’s character"

I was thinking the same thing about Paul and others in the Bible as far as the Lord giving them the material for what is written there. I still feel very leary about this Mr. Cooke. I feel that there is some subtle manipulation of Truth.

What are your thoughts?


(SeanO) #7

@Connor_Nickels If you have a sense that he is subtly twisting truth then I would advise avoiding his teaching. Just tell your friend you would rather err on the side of caution.

This quote from the article at the bottom of the page is from Jonathan Edwards and it echoes my own concerns - very well meaning people soaked in Scripture that feel they have heard from God have been wrong in the past. So I think extra caution is warranted when anyone, even people you trust, claim to hear directly from God.

“I . . . know by experience that impressions being made with great power, and upon the minds of true saints, yea, eminent saints; and presently after, yea, in the midst of, extraordinary exercises of grace and sweet communion with God, and attended with texts of Scripture strongly impressed on the mind, are no sure signs of their being revelations from heaven: for I have known such impressions [to] fail, and prove vain.”

My personal experience is that I have seen people who claimed to hear directly from God mislead others or abuse their authority on multiple occasions. So I simply avoid those who claim to have this ability. There is plenty of good Bible teaching out there from people like Tim Keller, Don Carson, Andy Stanley, Chip Ingram and many more who do not make these types of tenuous claims.

What I would say from Scripture is that if someone claims to have words directly from God there are 2 very severe warnings from the Bible.

  1. If their words do not come true then they are a false prophet and the penalty in the OT was death. I am certainly not saying that should be the penalty today :slight_smile: But we need to recognize the seriousness of claiming to have words directly from God.
  2. Even if their words do come true, we must not listen to them if they lead us astray from the truth of Scripture.

Also, evil often masquerades as light, so we must be careful to discern truth from error when dealing with people who claim to have direct contact with God.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 - And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Not From the Lord

Deuteronomy 18:20-22- But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” 21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

Jeremiah 23:16 - This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

Not Being Led Astray

Deuteronomy 13:1-4 - If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.

Article on ‘God Told Me’

Hope those thoughts are helpful.


My Question:prophets and prophesy
(Valerie Schuetze) #8

I am fairly suspicious of modern day prophecy, but do believe that it exists and have experienced true prophecy in the past. Much of what we see today is simply not the real deal. I try to listen if someone gives me a “word”, politely if possible, but usually “file” it and wait. I also try to take note if I am hearing a similar message via a number of different sources and then I am more inclined to think it might be God trying to speak to me. Exercise caution, and wait to see if God confirms things in some other way, or if it s a confirmation of something God has already said to you personally.


(Dave Prout) #9

I can share a little bit about absorbing many (many) hours of Graham’s teachings.

While I do agree with @SeanO that this is a striking aspect of Graham’s claims, the materials themselves that he’s produced I find align very well with scripture. In fact, I’ve personally been greatly benefitted by his teachings over the last three years.

In particular I’d come from a heavily legalistic background emphasized by tremendous internal criticism and interpretations of scripture that were particularly brutal, that made God seem petty, insincere in his love, who treats people contemptibly.

Graham claims to have a calling for helping people like me (who have come from these sorts of religious environments) to help us understand the authenticity of God’s love, the grace in which we stand, and the confidence we can have in Him. Graham’s teachings (far above many others) have slowly helped to rebuild my trust in God, and they continue to help me today.

I do respect the scriptural warnings about people who claim to hear directly from the Lord, and think it should be judged by its fruit. My testimony in this case - I’d been searching for peace from incredibly heavy condemnation tied to legalism for over 15 years, and listened to dozens of teachings that helped (a little bit), but Graham’s ministry was the effective one for me. I have more hope, faith, and trust in God than I’ve had since the late '90s, in my early walk with Him.


(SeanO) #10

@DaveP I appreciate you sharing your experience. I would begin by noting that all truth is God’s truth, no matter the vehicle it is communicated through. I am glad that God used Graham to help you understand His grace and love. But there is a difference between a teacher being Biblically sound and a teacher being gifted / capable of communicating certain truths.

For example, some health and wealth preachers (I am not saying Graham is one) emphasize God’s goodness and grace, but then they twist the idea of God’s goodness into a transactional relationship. If you have faith, God will prosper you with worldly wealth.

Or some folks emphasize the work of God’s Spirit, but instead of focusing on the love for God and neighbor most clearly associated with the Spirit’s work in Scripture, they focus more on healing, prophetic words and tongues, which I Cor 13 makes clear were never the main point.

I listened to a bit of Graham’s teaching and below are some quotes. I am not judging his character, but the way he teaches Scripture is not Biblically sound. He does quote Scripture, but then he teaches things that sound much more like they came out of a self-help section in the bookstore - positive thinking and attracting favor to you.

In fact, some of the things he said make no sense at all - what on earth does it mean that Jesus in you attracts favor? Where on earth is that in the Bible?

when you’re in Christ everything is attracted to you

never work on a negative thought - just change it and work on a new one - God wants to give you things

favor is attracted to Jesus - anything you need is attracted to Christ in you


(Dave Prout) #11

Well, let me try to add context around these snippets based neighboring content in several of his talks. (Scriptures are NIV)

when you’re in Christ everything is attracted to you

Graham pre-scripts his talks and frequently phrases this as “All of heaven is attracted to Jesus in you.”

The principle here is touched on in many places in the epistles, another way to state it is that Jesus has earned every blessing, and that we sit with him in heavenly places, and as co-heirs share in his favor and grace, and sufferings.

A few good examples:

1 Col 27-29: To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. He is the one we proclaim, admonishing and teaching everyone with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone fully mature in Christ. To this end I strenuously contend with all the energy Christ so powerfully works in me.

Rev 5:12 In a loud voice they were saying: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!”

Ephesians 1:3 “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.”

Romans 8:14-17 " For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

Hebrews 13:5 " Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.” So we say with confidence, “The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can mere mortals do to me?”

Ephesians 5:29-32: After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.

1 Cor 6:15-17 - Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.

So, I’ve found this idea echoes throughout the NT…we are told by Jesus, Paul, Peter, to expect help from God. Not only through theology, but through His power to shape situations and circumstances. That the Holy Spirit is active with believers to achieve His will. Without this power from Him we can’t do His will or be what He wants us to be. (attempted to link verses here, but as I’m a new user I’m apparently limited/restricted)

never work on a negative though - just change it and work on a new one

To expand on this, the context he typically says this in is related to “thought life” – how access to higher thinking can help change our mindsets (and I agree can be self-help-y in its presentation). But still, rooted in scripture:

1 Cor 2:16 ““Who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.”

Mark 10:27 - "Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”

Philippians 4:8 - Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.

Ephesians 4:29 - Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.


(SeanO) #12

@DaveP I appreciate your sincere desire to be rooted in the Word brother :slight_smile:

In my opinion, there is a significant difference between the Bible verses you mentioned and what Graham is actually saying. For example, the Bible does not say to focus on positive rather than negative thoughts. No, the Bible says to have the mind of Christ - well, if you’re living in sin that will result in a negative thought of judgment and a need for repentance. The prophets often said negative things about Israel when they were disobeying God - and those were Words straight from God’s Spirit! Even God Himself says things that are negative - like when He pronounces judgment on evil cities or when Jesus condemned the Pharisees - “You brood of vipers!” Wow! That’s not a happy thought! But it is a true one.

Also, Graham’s emphasis is on you - for example:

everything you need is attracted to Christ in you

Whoa, let’s slow down for a minute. Jesus said that in this world you will suffer, but to not be afraid because He has conquered the world. The Gospel is not about getting what you need through Jesus - it is about finding that Jesus is everything you need.

Perhaps Graham is doing his best to interpret the Bible - I am not passing judgment. But what he says and what the Bible teaches are not the same thing.


(ThomasHeld) #13

Hi Connor,

@Connor_Nickels I never heard of Graham Cooke but like @SeanO I visited his website/social media and read a lot of his material and listened to his teaching titled: The Beloved.

My conclusion: I would not buy or listen to any of his books or teachings.

Why? First let’s call to mind Hebrews 4:12

For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

So, the Word itself always has power, but the motivation of the teacher varies. Paul explains this in Philippians 1

15 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill: 16 [c]The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; 17 but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.

I’m sure many people like @DaveP have benefited from listening to and reading Mr. Cooke’s material. He quotes Scripture, so the listener/reader can look it up in the Bible or pray on it and God’s Word will speak to them.

But many people also benefit from listening to and reading Tony Robbins.

So although God’s Word is always true - Mr. Cooke’s is not. I’ll give just one example of his ‘feel good’ gospel.

BTW, he names his ministry: Brilliant Perspectives and he sells his teachings from his Brilliant Book House

Catchy title.

I always look for The Statement of Faith on a Church or on a Christian’s website. I found none. (Maybe it’s there someplace?)

My example of his teaching concerns prophecy - here’s the Brilliant Perspective on his prophecy resources:

PROPHECY

Resources that will help you discover and move in your prophetic gift providing foresight into the mind and heart of God.

Nowhere in the Bible does God say everyone is given the gift of prophecy. That is clearly a Biblical distortion.

Nor does the Bible say we need resources to help us discover and move in our prophetic gift - which will provide foresight into the mind and the heart of God.

That’s just one example, there are many more. I’m not judging the man, but he is not even close to standing on solid Christian ground. His teaching on Romans 12:2 is complete nonsense.

I still feel very leary about this Mr. Cooke. I feel that there is some subtle manipulation of Truth.

Trust your spirit, Connor.

But your friend said:

"I believe the Lord can say, “Write this…” He said that to many people in the Bible. And if he’s the same yesterday, today and forever, I don’t see why he couldn’t do that in our day.

Prophetic gifts and ministry are real. We’re imperfect and we might miss something but we can supernaturally experience God and his utterances, visions, impressions, etc. I would hold them in a critical eye if they contradicted the Word or God’s character"

The spiritual gift of prophesy does exist - but we know for sure that God can not lie (Titus 1:2) and God does not give new revelations to people just because we are “imperfect and might miss something.” A Scripture taken out of context is only a pretext.

Very few have been given the gift of prophesy today, but to the those people, their words will always line-up with The Word perfectly. Mr. Cooke’s words do not.

It’s time for your friend to employ “a critical eye.” God bless.


(Dave Prout) #14

Thanks @SeanO - I sense you’re interested in protecting people from wrong interpretations of scripture to keep them safe. I think this is excellent.

I love the fact that Ravi’s salvation testimony involved a supernatural event. God did it before Ravi had any significant Christian theology. Ravi’s now one of the best apologists I’ve ever heard.

One of the difficulties in being protestant is our emphasis on Sola Scriptura. It puts incredible requirement on our interpretations to do 100% of the work for us. There are many ways to interpret verses. Excellent Bible teachers are like gold. But they are so rare!

As mentioned in the earlier post, for more than 15 years I stumbled around increasingly confused and increasingly condemned, the more I learned about Bible and church history. I wrestled every single day with heavy darkness, but have finally come out on the other side.

Looking back, I had conflated the Bible with God. That is, if it wasn’t in the Bible, then it wasn’t God. The Bible was God, or became a god apart from God…and what was true of the pharisees had become true for me, even though I was (trying to be) a Christian.

I’m curious, do you happen to know of anyone who had a history of being an entrenched legalist, who has found a way out and stayed out for the long haul? Can you share what their journey was like, or what helped them along the way?

Thanks!

(Forums are awful for communicating…tone and heart are hard to communicate. Happy to do a skype or something with you sometime.)


(SeanO) #15

@DaveP I agree that knowing the Bible is not enough - we need to know the God who gave it! Jesus made this point very powerfully in John chapter 5 when He was speaking to the Pharisees.

John 5:39-40 - You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

We should study Scripture to have an accurate understanding of God, but we also must have an active life of prayer and worship and the indwelling of God’s Spirit. The Spirit and the Word, like two rivers, must flow together in our hearts and lives.

You might enjoy Eric Metaxas’ study of the life of Martin Luther, the second most famous legalist after Paul the Apostle himself.

Distinguishing Emotions vs the Spirit

Even great men like Jonathan Edwards, who emphasized the importance of an emotional experience of God, recognized that people often wrongly equate a feeling with God. When people equate their feelings with God, it can easily lead to unwise actions or heresy.

I . . . know by experience that impressions being made with great power, and upon the minds of true saints, yea, eminent saints; and presently after, yea, in the midst of, extraordinary exercises of grace and sweet communion with God, and attended with texts of Scripture strongly impressed on the mind, are no sure signs of their being revelations from heaven: for I have known such impressions [to] fail, and prove vain. Jonathan Edwards

Born Again

Regarding overcoming legalism, I think the new birth in Christ is super important and Keller makes some great points regarding that birth in this sermon.


(MERLE W TEMPLE) #16

I’m not familiar with Mr. Cooke, but I do know that God makes Himself known to us. When the Holy Spirit draws near, there is no other feeling like it. The best passages in my novels are written when the Holy Spirit starts downloading. It is a fine line to walk at times, but we shouldn’t discount “signs and wonders.” We should use discernment to ensure they are not counterfeit experiences, but we shouldn’t discount them out of hand. I am not Pentecostal or charismatic, but I have seen miracles, extraordinary moments that caused people to weep and repent and drove the lost to the Word, to the Cross. No, not the huckster theatrics for money but the unexpected move of the Holy Spirit that changed lives. My faith is strong. I don’t need signs and wonders, but some do in this world, and He still gives us these moments. He still speaks to us if we would only listen and divorce ourselves from the noise of the world and hear Him as I did when He used that megaphone of pain C.S. Lewis wrote about to shout at me…“Can you hear Me now?”


(SeanO) #17

@Merle I agree we should not discount the miraculous. I think my concern is that people are too quick to ascribe their emotions / thoughts to God. When Nabeel Qureshi was dying, dozens of people prophesied he would be healed - and he was not. They were all wrong, yet they all claimed to be hearing God’s voice. This is very concerning to me personally. In the Bible it is very serious to say you are hearing directly from God. And I think that sometimes when we emphasize the more miraculous gifts, we cause people to walk into error.

For me, the Spirit is all about pointing us to Jesus, bringing God’s Word to remembrance, empowering us to walk in victory over sin and filling us with joy, peace and love as we sing songs in our hearts to God. I think an emphasis on the more miraculous gifts can easily take the focus off of the Spirit’s main work in our lives.

I think we have to be grounded in the Word and filled with the Spirit. If we ignore the work of the Spirit, we are not abiding in Christ. If we ignore the study of the Word, we can easily be led astray by emotionalism or false doctrine.

If we look at Peter’s very clear outline of how we grow in our faith, it emphasizes both living out our faith in God through obedience to God and love for others as well as growing in knowledge / understanding. I think that this passage offers a very Biblical picture of what growth in our faith should look like - growth in love, self-control and knowledge of God. It is rooted in our trust in God, our obedience to Him and a study of His Word that leads us to grow in understanding / wisdom.

2 Peter 1:5-11 - For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7 and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind,forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins.

10 Therefore, my brothers and sisters,[a] make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdomof our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.


(Dave Prout) #18

Thanks @SeanO for the book reference - I’ll check it out! Tim Keller is great. I just listened to this, which is excellent. For purposes of another teaching on the same subject by Cooke, I’ll share this (~8m):

It may just be me, but there are significant parallels here. Cooke makes some suggestions near the end on how church ministry might help support the development of the “new birth”, and the role that prophecy can play in addition to scriptural teaching.

Now, I’m no prophet :-). But I’ve had a couple of times in my life where people have told me things that ended up coming to pass within a couple of years. If the prophecy is authentic (which I think we’d both agree everyone needs to be very careful about), would you agree that it’s desireable…? (e.g. when Paul says “Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy.”)


(SeanO) #19

@DaveP I believe that Biblical, relevant, Spirit filled teaching is very desirable and it is my belief that the word ‘prophecy’ in 1 Cor 14:1 is referring to such teaching rather than to prophetic utterances. My basis for that belief is that Paul contrasts it with tongues, which are not comprehensible to others, and suggests that it always builds up and strengthens the Church. What is the foundation of the Church? The Gospel. Paul, as a master builder, laid the foundation of the Churches he planted as the Gospel.

Also, later on in the chapter Paul says that prophesy convicts of sin and brings people under judgment - unbelievers in fact. What does that? The Gospel.

1 Cor 14:24-25 - But if an unbeliever or an inquirer comes in while everyone is prophesying, they are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment by all, 25 as the secrets of their hearts are laid bare.

I think a Biblical example of the gift of prophecy mentioned in 1 Cor 14:1 would be Peter’s sermon in Acts 2. Peter preached the Gospel and the people were brought under conviction of sin and judgment - exactly what 1 Cor 14 says happens when people prophesy.

Acts 2:37 - When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”

If people do believe in a modern equivalent of prophetic utterances (prophetic word), then I agree with the injunction given in Thessalonians:

“Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything careful­ly; hold fast to that which is good” (1 Thess. 5:19-21)

Regarding the work of God’s Spirit, I think this sermon by Tim Keller did a good job of explaining it. The Spirit makes our heart sensitive to the truth and when the truth of God’s Word and the Spirit work upon our heart together we are made new and our affections (heart) are (is) transformed.


(ThomasHeld) #20

Hi Sean,

@SeanO Just as a point of clarification - are you saying Paul the Apostle was the the second most famous legalist - or Saul the Pharisee - or both? Thanks